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Comment 01 Mordecai January 02 2007, 15:24 It's difficult to take these criticisms from the Medialens crowd seriously. One of their objections to Monbiot's piece is that he uses the word "mistakes" to refer to the British establishment's actions over Iraq. By itself that would be an inappropriate word, but Monbiot immediately precedes it with the phrase "supreme international crime", and immediately follows it with the sentence "What other former empire knows so little of its own atrocities?" It's pretty obvious that Monbiot isn't making light of the war crimes (which he refers to over and over as "crimes"). Comment 02 ALP January 02 2007, 16:19 The Medialens editors could do something to discourage the worst of these smears (eg claims of Monbiot "promoting mass murder"). But then they'd be accused of double standards, since (as the examples posted show) they themselves are posting some of the worst ones. I'm reminded of their smear campaign against Iraq Body Count. Once they'd promoted the slanderous claim that IBC "actively aided and abetted war crimes", they could hardly discourage others from posting such smears. And they don't want to alienate their closest supporters (Peter Fainton, Gabriele Zamparini, Miriam Cotton, etc) who also tend to be the ones posting the more hysterical smears against people such as Monbiot. Comment 03 Russ Bridger January 02 2007, 17:00 I'm a great fan of the internet's ability to level out the playing field for expression of views. But a major downside as far as I'm concerned is that little twerps such as Medialens's Peter Fainton think they have a license to go around publicly accusing people of "promoting mass murder" based on nothing more than some stupid piece of semantic masturbation. I blame Medialens for this trend. George Monbiot has done more for the causes supported by Fainton and his ilk than they will ever do, even assuming they give up their petty semantic twiddling (with added hysteria) - which they won't. Comment 04 ALP January 02 2008, 18:49 Not many people know it, but Medialens released a record back in their book-burning days:
Comment 05 Russ Bridger January 02 2008, 19:37 Medialens released a record - ALP LOL. Classic. Thank God for Dave Spart-Edwards and Dave Spart-Cromwell. Without their efforts nobody would suspect that the "MSM" is the Great Satan of our times. Comment 06 LizG January 02 2008, 20:59 tee hee. Is humour permitted whilst there's so much suffering in the world? Maybe it should be outlawed out of respect to the maimed and dying. Comment 07 KHagen January 03 2008, 05:56 I don't think Monbiot's word "mistake" is a crime. Look at it in context: "The British establishment has a unique capacity to move on, and then to repeat its mistakes. What other former empire knows so little of its own atrocities?" By that point in the article, he's already referred to "Britain's participation in the supreme international crime". It's redundant to keep repeating the same string of words. One can read into the "mistake" sentence that all "establishment" hierarchies have the element of incompetence as well as amorality. It's quite a valid point to make. People are deeply mistaken if they think that establishments as a rule carry out their plans smoothly and competently. In other words, intentional crimes, incompetence and major mistakes aren't mutually exclusive. Perhaps I'm stretching a point in order to defend Monbiot. But doesn't he deserve being defended?
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