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Comment 01 Brigid March 26 2008, 12:17 Thanks, Brian. I found the following blog on the abortion issue which also contains the lakoff reference to the Olasky quote: http://icebergprinciple.deviantart.com/art[...] Comment 02 Pete Durham March 26 2008, 13:08 It helps to think about this issue, that's for sure. With the Iraq thing, it's too easy to get into the habit of seeing the pro-war side as insane or evil. I mean, how could anyone in their right mind support such a thing? It's completely different with the abortion dilemma. You're forced to see the other side (assuming that you are pro-choice) as someone with an opinion that can't be reduced to either evil or insanity. From my reading of Lakoff (not much) I found the "family" model a touch trite. But I probably need to read up on it more to do it justice. Comment 03 Several Famous Epidemiologists March 26 2008, 16:26 Indeed, this is interesting stuff. Have you thought of applying the various moral categories mentioned to the framing of Iraq mortality estimates and surrounding issues? At times it seems as emotional and controversial as the abortion issue, if not more so. For example, the "morality" of scientific method as contrasted with the morality of human rights and prevention of suffering. Comment 04 Ged March 26 2008, 17:57 "Every sperm is sacred. Every sperm is great. If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate." (Monty Python, 'The Meaning of Life'). Comment 05 Ged March 26 2008, 18:21 Forgot to post the link to the obligatory accompanying video. And it's WELL worth a watch: http://video.google.com/videoplay[...] Comment 06 Karl Watzlawick March 26 2008, 19:13 There's a long article by Lakoff which touches on abortion. He writes of the two stereotypical conservative views of woman who seek an abortion: On the whole [in the conservative steretypes], there are two classes of women who want abortions: unmarried teenagers, whose pregnancies have resulted from lust and carelessness, and women who want to delay conception for the sake of a career, but have accidentally conceived. From the point of view of the strict father model, both classes of women violate the morality characterized by the model. The first class consists of young women who are immoral by virtue of having shown a lack of sexual self-control. The second class consists of women who want to control their own destinies, and who are therefore immoral for contesting the strict father model itself, since it is that model that defines what morality is. For these reasons, those who abide by Strict Father morality tend to oppose abortion. http://www.wwcd.org/issues/Lakoff.html
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